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Why The GOP Must Nominate Ron Paul

“Why must the Republican Party nominate a 72-year-old grandfather from the Gulf Coast of Texas, until the past few months little known outside his district, as its 2008 standard-bearer? Very simple: the alternative is eight years of President Hillary Clinton. That ought to be enough to get the attention of every conservative who happens upon these words, so let me explain.” Read full story

Ron Paul raises over $5 million in 3rd quarter!

7 Responses

  1. I am a Libertarian and I cannot support Ron Paul becauwe he does not accurately represent many Libertarian principles. He has supported and will support laws that take away freedom of choice on the issue of abortion. He will not support the movement to repeal prohibition.
    He is not pragmatic about the issues of defense–he is still focusing on the non-initiation of force issue of how we got to Iraq, ignoring the fact that we are now in a position where we have to protect our trade routes–a position Thomas Jefferson took when he used military force against Tripoli.
    Pulling out our support of a free Iraq precipitously will ultimately result in the closing of the Straits of Hormuz–we have received this warning from both our enemies and our allies.
    It is unfortunate that we are in Iraq, and how we got there is still under debate, but it is important to protecting capitalism and trade that we protect our trade routes.
    It is also unfortunate that International Libertarians, like myself, who were prevalant in the LP in the seventies and eighties, are now being lumped together with the neoconservatives. Our goals of international freedom may be the same, but our methods are different.
    Libertarians must remember that our principles must be introduced from the bottom up, not forced from the top down. It would be better to support LP candidates for Congress and Governor, and for state offices, than to spend it wastefully on a politician such as Ron Paul.

  2. Revinjim, I’m confused about your post. You’re a libertarian, yet you’d rather have a neoconservative in the presidency? If Ron Paul makes it to the presidency it will be because enough people support him and that would essentially mean the libertarian principles are being called for from the bottom up. No principles (conservative, neoconservative, fascist, liberal, libertarian or otherwise) should be forced upon the country, yet the very idea of libertarianism is to increase the citizen’s ability to choose. You’ll have to explain what you mean here, its not making sense.

    Also, I just can’t subscribe to the idea that to pay for oil or whatever trade you’re suggesting here we have to continue sacrificing American lives.

    Whatever ones political ideology may be, we need to leave Iraq because the war is illegal by U.S. standards (undeclared by Congress) and by international standards (pre-emptive because there was no proof Saddam had WMDs to use against the U.S).

  3. I would vote for Gary Johnson, Walter Williams, Neil Boortz, Russell Means, or whomever gets the Libertarian Party nomination. I will never vote for a politician, and Ron Paul is a politician. Why else is he running as a Republican? Look at his voting record both in Congress and in the Texas State Legislature, if you don’t believe me. It is all documented in his Wikipedia entry. You would do well to remember that he was forced out of the Libertarian Party, because he did not properly represent the principles of the LP.

    It doesn’t matter if we entered the war illegally, we are now charged to leave a stable government to replace the one we disposed of. It is now a matter of honor, not of neoconservatism.

    You may be able to afford a horse and buggy and a plot of land for a Post petroleum America, but I can’t. I will be an indentured servant. That isn’t freedom, but it is the price we pay for isolationism.

  4. Edit to my last comment: “It is now a matter of preserving free enterprise, and of honor,” etc.
    typo “illegally”

  5. Thanks for your comments revinjim. I looked again at the Ron Paul wiki entry and also the Libertarian party entry. The only split I see between rp and the libertarian party is on abortion. Ron Paul advocates permitting states to classify it as murder. This is an interesting point because the libertarians traditionally are pro-choice on the issue. I personally wonder if it should only be allowed in certain cases of rape, incest, and to save the life of the mother. I guess I support Mitt Romney on this one. So that is one issue that I would question somewhat, although you have to admit that with Ron Paul’s experience as an obstetrician, he certainly has a right to his position, being well informed on the subject.

    I don’t consider myself a traditional libertarian, although I tend to identify with their platform more than Republicans or Democrats. I didn’t see anything about Ron Paul being forced out of the Libertarian party.

    It does matter that we entered the war illegally, that reflects on our honor as much or more than the fact that we are in essence balkanizing the region and creating instability, which by the way we are doing by design. PNAC’s “Rebuilding America’s Defenses” outlines the Pentagon’s intention of creating permanent bases in the region. The manufactured instability in Iraq creates the premise for them to carry out these plans for a permanent U.S. base there. There may be some U.S. soldiers or organizations there who want to set up a stable government with the intention of leaving once that is complete, but the ones pulling the strings have no intention of leaving and there is evidence that they are even funding insurgents. Neoconservatives are a key group behind all of it. We just need to pull out.

    I would strongly hesitate to call an economy that is being orchestrated by foriegn bankers free enterprise. And I don’t think you can call it “free” enterprise when you steal the oil. Plus I don’t believe that we need the oil there, we’re not even fully utilizing the oil resources in our own country. They’ve created this artificial idea of oil scarcity only intended to drive up prices and attempting to justify the war in a very backward way.

  6. I really do agree with you on your last paragraph, and an important point that a Libertarian candidate could make would be to remove all Federal restrictions from the aquisition and production of energy resources.
    I did use the word “forced” out of the LP, which, I admit is inaccurate, and I apologize for that, but after Dr. Paul received the lowest number of popular votes, for a Libertarian Presidential Candidate, in the history of the Libertarian Party
    he was widely denounced among many in the party for misrepresenting the party principles.
    While I applaud Dr. Paul for introducing Libertarian ideology into the Republican Presidential debate, I feel that, because there are many states that do not allow Libertarians or other third party members to vote in the primaries, he stands a very slim chance of being nominated. The Republican base that votes in the primaries basically supports the status quo.
    Thank you for allowing me to argue my points here.

  7. I appreciate your comments. It is very interesting to know that some libertarians felt they couldn’t support rp when he went his own way on a few issues. There may be some other issues but the only one I noticed (from reading wiki) was his stance against abortion vs. their pro-choice stance. I guess it shows how committed libertarians are to their ideology.

    I know that rp still needs a groundswell of support to win the nomination, but I also feel that there is something unique happening, thanks in part to the internet, where this grassroots push for more libertarian principles in government is growing rapidly. Even the Vegas oddsmakers are now saying Paul has a good chance of winning.


    The mainstream media is going to downplay this of course, but its amazing how fast true ideas can spread.

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