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CNN Youtube Debates: They’re Stealing Ron Paul’s Lines

The strange thing I noticed during this debate was that many of the candidates (Huckabee, Giuliani, Thompson, etc.) are stealing Ron Paul’s positions on some issues. Huckabee is now extremely vocal about getting rid of the IRS, Thompson wants to overturn Roe V. Wade and hand the abortion issue to the states? These are both positions initially taken and championed by Paul—his outspokenness on these issues has made them popular and accepted. The other candidates are realizing that Paul’s ideals are popular and they’re trying to cash in and steal his thunder at the debates. Thats politicians for you.

Overall Ron Paul’s message and answers were clear, direct, and strong. This doesn’t leave a lot for the other candidates to attack, and maybe thats part of why Paul gets less time to speak. He clearly stated his position on defending national sovereignty, eliminating needless/unconstitutional government institutions and spending, protecting the country and not engaging in unlawful, no win, wars that we can’t afford. One of Paul’s great moments was when he declared that Washington had not changed him, after other candidates admitted it had changed them.

I was again disappointed by the lack of air time that Ron Paul received, the post debate stats prove a great time imbalance, as usual most of the questions were directed to Giuliani, Romney, and McCain. Low points of the debate included the bickering between Romney and Giuliani over the percentages of crime that they decreased and about who had a worse record on immigration.

Even Romney took a stand against Huckabee’s government-funded illegal immigrant scholarship program that he set up in Arkansas, noting that “this is not your money to give” to illegals, its the taxpayers’. Still, all the candidates including Romney pale in comparison to the principled nature of Ron Paul and his relentless record of voting according to Constitutional law.

John McCain took on the role as self-proclaimed spokesman for the troops, using a question about taxes to attack Paul on foreign policy. Paul reminded McCain quickly “the question you have to ask is why do I get the most money from active duty personnel?” End of debate. McCain’s inconsistencies were revealed here, as he had earlier in the debate admitted that Iraq is a failure, now he tried to smear Paul for his position of bringing the troops home in order to limit the damages done to our troops and the region. McCain appropriately received plenty of boos for his remarks here.

After the debate Ron Paul spoke about how he was a little annoyed by not being able to speak until a half hour into the debate and even then only given a few minutes here and there. However, Paul, a true liberty supporter to the end, said “they have their right to be biased.” I love this guy, he always goes out of his way to be fair and liberty-minded even when people often aren’t at all fair to him. We need to get him elected.

12 Responses

  1. Please consider contributing on the 16th of December.
    Ron Paul needs the publicity of another big fund raising day.

    I’m a veteran of the U.S. Air Force active duty (4yrs) and I currently serve as a traditional guardsman in the Air National Guard. All military personnel upon enlistment take the oath: “I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic…” A vote for Rep. Paul does just that. Ron Paul has my support.

    There is an obvious media bias and it is sad. Rep. Paul is the one candidate of the crowd who has substantially differing views and he was not given much of a chance to articulate those views. Much time was given to marginal issues and small differences between other candidates’ positions on the issues. I suspect many special interest groups have much to lose if a President Paul had a chance to use his veto pen. This is reflected in the lack of time given to Rep. Paul.

    As an economics major in college, I find his Austrian economics very sound. Check out http://www.mises.org if you find yourself in disagreement. There you can find a library of Austrian Economics E-books and other resources for free.

  2. I hope no one ever expected CNN to conduct a “fair” debate! CNN is the official Zionist Trotskyite mouthpiece! I was coming to the conclusion CNN wanted to make it a 2 hour Juli-Annie special with guest appearances by Romney and McCain.

  3. I didn’t expect a fair debate I’ve been watching them too long, but it shouldn’t be too much to ask. Just give each candidate the same amount of time to speak. It’s definitely the Giuliani show —he has the media endorsement and Romney/McCain are in the “mainstream media accepts us” club.

    And yes, I’ll be donating to the Ron Paul campaign on the 16th. It will be another historic day.

  4. The one example you gave of stealing Ron Paul’s lines was Huckabee abolishing the IRS. He has advocated the Fair Tax, including abolition of the IRS since at least early summer. That’s when I first looked into him, and that was his position then. Thought you’d like to know.
    To God be all glory,
    Lisa of Longbourn

  5. Ok, this is probably true about Huckabee, but still, was it something he brought up at the debates before tonight?

    Paul was pegged early on as the odd-man-out for wanting to abolish the IRS, he was the one who actually brought the issue to the forefront of recent political debate. Now that Paul broke the ice, suddenly several candidates are more outspoken about it too.

    Paul isn’t for a fair tax or a flat tax or any kind of direct income tax. His flat tax is “zero”, as he has said. I just think its funny how the popular debate topics now are things like “what are the top 3 government departments that you would abolish?” This wouldn’t be the case if Paul wasn’t in the race urging a return to Constitutional principles.

    Besides, my point was more about the fact that Ron Paul was being undercut on an issue that he has a strong, important position on— not so much that Huckabee is or isn’t in wanting to abolish the IRS. I can hardly see the benefit of replacing the IRS with some other direct income tax anyway.

  6. huckabee has always supported eliminating the IRS and the Fairtax… it is not stealing from Ron Paul.

  7. Yeah, it’s no surprise that the debates are biased, but it’s still annoying. Give them each the same amount of time – how hard is that?

    As far as the candidates stealing Ron Paul’s lines there is no doubt about it. Giuliani copied one of Ron’s answers almost word for word. Nobody was talking about the Constitution or trying to be the next Ronald Reagan until they realized that Ron Paul was gaining support a few months ago. So this panel of fake, professional politicians steal Ron’s lines and focus group them and use Frank Luntz manipulation. Then they pose and talk the talk long enough to get popular, but none of them will follow through with it – if they actually get elected.

    Ron Paul is the only one with enough guts and integrity to actually make the real changes that need to be made. We need to get the word out about Ron Paul right now! If people understood what Paul is really about he would easily be the front runner. Hope for America!

  8. I noticed it, and I’ve seen others that have noticed it to. It’s to be expected, apparently what they mean by “dark horse who will influnce the debates”, means “candidate speaking the truth that others will steal from for support”.

    And Huckabee might be for the fairtax, but it is false he wants to get rid of, or lower taxes. Just as they pointed out after the debate, he lowered taxes 90 times, but raised them 20 times, and in overall course of things increased taxes.

    Huckabee is what a democrat was 15 years ago.

  9. You can all rant and rave about unfair practices of the CNN debates but take into consideration this: the so called front runners took their time trying to out slander each other, none of this rubbed off on Dr.Paul he did not get involved in this crap. When he did get the mike it was on a positive note and he did not waver. Never has. When McCain was going on and on about his stance on the way if you noticed some good facial shots of Ron’s face and it showed his true personality his face absolutely showed ” go on dig yourself into a deeper hole ( to McCain)” When he got his chance to rebutt he did so very skillfully and distinctly. McCain was trumped.. and done so nicely. Ron Paul absolutely got more attention for his decency and honesty than any of the rest and the world saw that.

    This morning he was on CNN several times with very very good interviews so it was worth standing there so dignified among those trashy politicians and coming out on top a dignified intelligent and very good looking candidate.

  10. You’re right about the nonsense between other candidates Granny.

    Just think of how much more good, positive, true things Paul could have said if he was given equal time.

  11. “I respect private propert, and it is their right to be biased” -Ron Paul (soon-to-be President)

    This guy might not be the most popular, but his message is so consistent – from the way he speaks, to the way he acts, to the way he conducts his campaign – it’s no wonder he has the most dedicated supporters. And remember, in politics it is the organized minority (special interest) that dominates the disorganized majority time and again.

    Vote Ron Paul.

  12. fair tax, just another scam on the people. I like paul’s tax. 0%

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