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Mitt Romney Endorses Ron Paul

Okay, Romney didn’t actually endorse Ron Paul — but he might as well have. In this interview with Mark Larsen on The Morning Magazine show out of Tampa Bay Romney basically says (in so many words): “I am part of the corrupt political elite. I will not do anything to fix the problems in this country, but I might make them worse — at the very least I will continue with our failed policies. Everyone should vote for Ron Paul instead of me or any of the other candidates.”

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9 Responses

  1. Thats a heck of a rant against Mitt Romney. Can’t say I blame him – I feel the same way. All this talk of change in the primaries and you can put Hilary, McCain, Romney, Obama, Huck in a hat – have your pick and it would all be about the same – same high taxes, probably even higher now that the ecomony slows down. If they used all the tax money and then some when we were booming, Im afraid to see how much they take out of my paycheck next year. I think I might just vote Ron Paul too.

  2. Yeah, I agree. It’s a shame that the current political system won’t allow anything but the status quo to get mainstream support and media exposure. I’m definitely voting for Ron Paul. It’s a matter of principle at this point.

  3. What happened to Larsen is exactly, precisely what happened to me… REALITY SET IN. I hung up my Hannity and Rush spurs and became a hard-core Ron Paul fan.

    I also became a Precinct Leader. I write letters to newspapers. I put banners out in my front yard, one of which reads “ASK ME ABOUT RON PAUL” and my telephone number.

    I get about 70 calls every week. People are curious. Push away from your computers and get the message out. We may never see a candidate like Ron Paul again.

  4. Im lovin the passion Mark

  5. So often I get the feeling you Ron Paul people live in your own world, and now it looks like you’re making up your own quotes…

  6. Yeah we do seem to have our own world Devin — it’s called REALITY. People should come and visit us more often, this country needs it.

    How is your guy Mitt doing by the way? You seem a little bitter, way to go on taking one for the team and clearing a path for McCain though, it was very politician-like of you. Just don’t give up on Mitt too soon, if history is any indicator he will change his mind.

  7. REALITY? If listening to that interview and then deriving the biased Ron Paul slanted tone from it is reality then not so sure I want to join your planet. The obvious bias of the blog taints your cause. If your cause is truth, bias and twisting isn’t needed…and as far as Ron Paul goes he has so many things right it doesn’t make sense to be so blatantly biased. Leave that to the politicians with truly no substance.

    Is a Ron Paul supporter bashing on Mitt Romney for failure to gain the nomination? I think a Ron Paul supporter would be the first to admit that lack of public support doesn’t mean that the politicians principles are incorrect. Perhaps you need to be reminded that Romney has beaten Paul in some of the state’s elections even after Romney dropped out.

    Even if one of the founding fathers were running for election I doubt he would have much success, and that doesn’t mean his principles are wrong.

    As far as paving the way for McCain, wasn’t it Paul delegates that jumped on the Huckabee bandwagon in West Virginia (along with the McCain supporters) so ensure Romney didn’t win)?

  8. Devin, its not Mitt Romney’s lack of support that bothers me, as a Ron Paul supporter. It’s his principles, or lack thereof. Romney’s proposed policies rarely even come close to any founding father, in fact many of his positions are the polar opposite of what the Founders stood for.

    I’m a Mormon, and people usually are surprised when I say I don’t support Mitt Romney for president, but that’s simply because I have researched what the founders actually believed, discussed, and established in our government through the Constitution. The Constitution is the living representation of the Founder’s principles.

    From my research of Mitt Romney’s positions, he refuses to denounce waterboarding as torture, his education policies lean toward being authoritarian, he supports the Real ID, and he supports illegal wars. These and other positions of his conflict with the 1st, 4th, 6th, 7th and 8th Amendments—all Amendments that are part of the Bill of Rights and given to us by the Founders. You have to understand that as someone who views the Constitution as a “heavenly banner” and an inspired document, Romney is somewhat frightening to me (so are most of the other candidates). So yes, there are times when myself or other contributors to the blog will call him on this, and even poke fun of him with a little sarcasm. I believe that is what my colleague has done with this post.

    But as far as a discussion about reality, it’s scary how far the country has departed from the original principles of the Constitution and simply carrying the label of “Mormon” won’t make unconstitutional positions go away. We need leaders at every level of the government who understand the proper role of government, who are committed to defending our inalienable rights and who understand the value of the Constitution.

    As the late LDS leader, Gordon B. Hinckley said, “[The Constitution] is the keystone of our nation. It is the guarantee of our liberty. That original document, with the Bill of Rights, constitutes the charter of our freedom. Through all of the years that have followed we have had some ambitious men who have sought to subvert the great principles of the Constitution, but somehow we have endured one crisis after another…But beyond and above it all is the wonder of a nation that for more than two centuries has remained free and independent and strong, the envy of the world, the hope of the world, the protection of free men everywhere…”

    We’re in a period of time now when the Constitution is being subverted by ambitious men. Since you brought up the idea of principles in politicians (a good subject that needs to be addressed), I’m interested in hearing your take Devin. As I’ve pointed out, I’ve found Romney to be lacking in the “principles” department.

  9. Hmmm, I don’t understand why this conversation is even necessary Devin, but you seem confused about what the point of this post/blog is so I’ll set the record straight and respond to what you said.

    Before I get into that I want to just echo what my co-DLR blogger Chris said above, I agree with him and it explains my thoughts on Romney and his positions well.

    OK, here it is: In your last comment you set up a few straw man arguments. (You misrepresented what I said in order to create a false position on my part, which you then attempted to refute — instead of addressing what I actually said.) Let me break it down…

    You said:
    REALITY? If listening to that interview and then deriving the biased Ron Paul slanted tone from it is reality then not so sure I want to join your planet. The obvious bias of the blog taints your cause.

    I wrote this post on the day of the Florida primaries, the same day this radio interview took place. This was before the Florida votes were even counted and a full week before super Tuesday. Mitt and McCain were neck and neck at this point and Romney was solidly in the race with no signs of dropping out. The title was obviously in jest, but also true in the sense that Mark Larsen was planning on voting for Mitt until Mitt helped Larsen change his mind (and vote) in favor of Ron Paul. Larsen’s change of mind was a direct result of his conversation with Romney — Romney was quite arrogant and condescending toward both Mark Larsen and Ron Paul, as well as the research of Cato and Mises.

    During the debates Giuliani, McCain and Romney all openly mocked and laughed at Ron Paul when he brought up truths about issues that were uncomfortable for them. Romney continues to mock Paul in this interview. Through it all Ron Paul’s response was to be a gentleman, he even went out of his way more than once to stand up for and respect Romney’s religious beliefs (including during the second appearance Paul had on the Tonight Show, when Leno invited him on because Fox News inexplicably and unfairly banned Paul from their debate).

    All I said was that Ron Paul supporters are in touch with reality. From everything I’ve seen we usually are more aware of the issues, we understand them better, and we’ve researched all of the other candidates as well. That’s a lot more than can be said for most of the supporters of any of the other candidates who base their decisions on gender or looks or religion or dubious war hero credentials rather than what really matters — character, integrity and the issues. The world of reality Ron Paul supporters inhabit is the opposite of bias. YOU were the only one talking about bias here, to be biased is to go against everything libertarian conservatism is all about. Besides, Ron Paul and his supporters have been on the receiving end of more bias than all of the rest of the candidates and their supporters put together, you have no room to talk here.

    You also accuse this blog of having an obvious bias? Get real. We openly state our purpose in the “About” section. Unlike the corporate mainstream media who pretends to be objective and is not, we are very clear about who we are and don’t hide anything. By your logic I could criticize mittromney.com for being biased toward Mitt Romney!

    You continue:
    If your cause is truth, bias and twisting isn’t needed…and as far as Ron Paul goes he has so many things right it doesn’t make sense to be so blatantly biased. Leave that to the politicians with truly no substance.

    Yes, our cause is truth, among other things. No intelligent person should mistake this post as anything other than sarcastic, humorous commentary on the interview Mitt did with Mark Larsen. Nothing was twisted here. If a person doesn’t get that they are taking things way too seriously and/or they are a bitter, insecure Romney supporter.

    I already addressed the “bias” issue. This blog strongly and openly supports Ron Paul because he represents and supports the things we care about. We are passionate about those things, as everyone should be, and we are passionate about Ron Paul. I’m glad that you agree he gets many things right. As far as leaving the bias to the other politicians — I do, and they’ve done their jobs of bias quite nicely with the help of the mainstream media.

    More:
    Is a Ron Paul supporter bashing on Mitt Romney for failure to gain the nomination? I think a Ron Paul supporter would be the first to admit that lack of public support doesn’t mean that the politicians principles are incorrect. Perhaps you need to be reminded that Romney has beaten Paul in some of the state’s elections even after Romney dropped out.

    By “a Ron Paul supporter” are you talking about me or Mark Larsen or just any random person? Should I refer to you this way? Why is “Romney supporter” setting up another straw man?

    What are you even talking about here Devin? I never said anything about Romney’s failure to get the nomination. Romney chose to step down at a time when he still had an outside shot at the nomination because he’s playing politics. It was obvious when I wrote that and it’s even more obvious now. Romney is kissing establishment butt to set himself up for 2012. Mitts endorsement of McCain is further proof of his long term plan. It also shows a real lack of integrity on Mitts part that he would support someone like McCain — sellout “conservatives” like Limbaugh don’t even like McCain.

    Also, of course I know that public support and popularity does not mean someone’s principles are correct! I never said otherwise. Perhaps you need to be reminded that if principles equaled popularity then Ron Paul would’ve beaten Romney in every state that’s voted so far.

    You continue:
    Even if one of the founding fathers were running for election I doubt he would have much success, and that doesn’t mean his principles are wrong.

    Here is where we totally agree. Sad commentary on our country today isn’t it?

    Lastly:
    As far as paving the way for McCain, wasn’t it Paul delegates that jumped on the Huckabee bandwagon in West Virginia (along with the McCain supporters) so ensure Romney didn’t win)?

    There is evidence that Huckabee and McCain were working together throughout the race to knock Romney out of it. Maybe it was more that Huckabee was just staying in to kneecap Romney because of religious animosity, that wouldn’t surprise me. But nobody — besides Ron Paul’s supporters — ever wanted to get near Paul (there’s that bias you were talking about). To accuse Paul’s supporters of working with the other candidates supporters to knock out Romney just isn’t true. Yes, in West Virginia Paul supporters eventually swung their support to Huckabee, but they were only doing what they had to do to get Paul some delegates. Their motivation was to support Paul, not to knock out Romney. If McCain wins it will be Romney’s endorsement of him and the recommendation Romney gave his delegates to support McCain that we can point the finger at, not some minor irrelevant incident in West Virginia.

    That pretty much covers it. You obviously are interested in politics and want to do the right things which I certainly respect. You should check out the writings of Cleon Skousen on government and the Constitution (some of it was written at the specific request of David O. McKay). Ezra Taft Benson also spoke and wrote many excellent things about the proper role of government. On this blog we have some of Benson’s writings about foreign policy that are really good. And all of it sounds a whole lot like Ron Paul…

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